My thoughts on balance

[Elite KryPtik]

Yes, but that is mid game, not late game. I'm speaking of late game when Isengard DOES have all of their upgrades, at that point they are very strong.

[Skeeverboy]

And than the Ironhils has their Axes too and can kill easy Isengard.
Dwarvens can update theri army in the early middle game and at the end of the middle they have all Upgrades, when Isen have just 1-2.
For other Faction it gives a rule: Don't let come Isengard in lategame.

[Elite KryPtik]

Listen, I'm not going to argue this point with you over text. If you want to test which faction is stronger, we can play later today, both build the biggest strongest army we can, and then fight and see who wins.

[Sir_Stig]

Listen, I'm not going to argue this point with you over text. If you want to test which faction is stronger, we can play later today, both build the biggest strongest army we can, and then fight and see who wins.

post the replay please

[Skeeverboy]

post the replay please

We haven't test it, because it is not necessary I think. Because just fight with two armys isn't part of the balance.
The Earlygame, the Middlegame and the Lategame are very important parts of Balance.
For example: Isengard is a bad faction in the EG, but in the LG they are very very strong. When you don't attack Isengard in the EG they become very fast strong.
But Dwarvens are the strongest in the EG, MG and LG. This is a problem. Dwarvens Units can kill easy Uruks, Orks, Farmers etc..

[Elite KryPtik]

We haven't test it, because it is not necessary I think. Because just fight with two armys isn't part of the balance.
The Earlygame, the Middlegame and the Lategame are very important parts of Balance.
For example: Isengard is a bad faction in the EG, but in the LG they are very very strong. When you don't attack Isengard in the EG they become very fast strong.
But Dwarvens are the strongest in the EG, MG and LG. This is a problem. Dwarvens Units can kill easy Uruks, Orks, Farmers etc..

You just stated my exact point, late game Isengard has the strongest army. I know for a fact that Isengard late game can defeat a dwarven faction, unless its just solid Veterans. Iron Hills armor piercing axes isn't enough to defeat the Uruks once they have shieldbearers, captains, and the Steelworks upgrades. Like I said, we can test it out if you don't believe me.

[Skeeverboy]

Iron Hills armor piercing axes isn't enough to defeat the Uruks once they have shieldbearers, captains, and the Steelworks upgrades

I have see how a Ironhil army have killed a full upped Isengard (from my teammade) and 1200 cp upped Ered Luin (from me).

[Elite KryPtik]

OK I'll be on later, we need to settle this.

EDIT: Cancel that, I just downloaded a new beta so we won't be able to play, once the next public update comes out we can settle this.

[CragLord]

This discussion starts to getting some attention. 
We are waiting for results.

[Elite KryPtik]

Yeah, next time we're both on I'm going message him so we can do this. More than likely Dwarves will win because of heroes with Mithril, without that Isengard would reign supreme.